Legislature(2017 - 2018)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

03/28/2018 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY

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01:48:57 PM Start
01:50:25 PM Confirmation Hearing(s): Alaska Bar Association Board of Governors, State Board of Parole
02:04:11 PM SB202
02:13:20 PM SB184
02:24:20 PM SB150
02:58:06 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
Consideration of Governor's Appointees
+ Alaska Bar Association Board of Governors TELECONFERENCED
- William Gordon
+ State Board of Parole TELECONFERENCED
- Sarah Possenti
+ Violent Crimes Compensation Board TELECONFERENCED
- Jeffrey Stubblefield <Removed from Agenda>
+= SB 184 ACCESS TO MARIJUANA CONVICTION RECORDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 184(JUD) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+= HB 43 NEW DRUGS FOR THE TERMINALLY ILL TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 202 NATIVE CORP. LIABILITY FOR CONTAMINATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 202 Out of Committee
+= SB 150 PRETRIAL RELEASE; NON-AK CRIM HISTORY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
          SB 150-PRETRIAL RELEASE; NON-AK CRIM HISTORY                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:24:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   COGHILL  reconvened   the  meeting   and  announced   the                                                               
consideration  of  SB  150.  He   noted  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute   (CS),  the   four  proposed   amendments,  and   the                                                               
individuals waiting  to give public  testimony. He  asked Senator                                                               
Wielechowski to summarize  the amendments so both  the public and                                                               
the Department of Law will know what will be discussed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:26:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  said he tried  to tailor the  amendments to                                                               
the bill and  the pretrial and bail concerns he    hearing in the                                                               
community.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Amendment 1 deletes the requirement  for mandatory release when a                                                               
person is  arrested for  a misdemeanor and  is deemed  a moderate                                                               
risk.  An  individual   may  still  be  released   on  their  own                                                               
recognizance, but the judge has discretion.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Amendment 2 is  in response to situations where  a person commits                                                               
a crime, is released on  mandatory OR, commits another crime, and                                                               
is  again  released  on  mandatory  OR.  The  Department  of  Law                                                               
testified that this is happening.  The amendment says if a person                                                               
commits a crime while out on  OR, they are no longer eligible for                                                               
mandatory OR. This gives discretion back to the judge.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Amendment 3 clarifies that judicial  officers have the ability to                                                               
require an  individual to  complete a  sobriety program  while on                                                               
release. It  also adds a box  to the release form  that clarifies                                                               
whether or  not the  person eligible for  release is  required to                                                               
enter a sobriety program.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Amendment  4   defines  electronic  monitoring  to   mean  active                                                               
realtime  global positioning  system  (GPS)  monitoring. The  DOC                                                               
testified it  had this capability,  but it isn't always  used. He                                                               
said his research  indicates this is generally  more effective in                                                               
eliminating abuse of electronic monitoring.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:28:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COGHILL  asked  each  individual  to  limit  their  public                                                               
testimony to two minutes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:29:51 PM                                                                                                                    
BRADLEY MILLER,  representing self, Eagle River,  Alaska, said SB
150 is moving in the right  direction, but it's still just a band                                                               
aid for the  failures of SB 91. He suggested  the honorable thing                                                               
would be to repeal that legislation and start over.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:31:22 PM                                                                                                                    
TAMMY WELLS,  representing self, Anchorage, Alaska,  said she has                                                               
worked in the legal system for the  past 20 years. She grew up in                                                               
Mountain View  and since the passage  of Senate Bill 91,  she has                                                               
never been more  fearful. She agreed with  the previous testifier                                                               
that  repealing Senate  Bill  91  is a  real  move  in the  right                                                               
direction.  That  legislation  is responsible  for  the  dramatic                                                               
increase in crime  throughout the state. Recidivism  is a problem                                                               
because there  are not enough  programs within the  prison system                                                               
to  get people  off drugs  and to  teach new  skills so  they can                                                               
successfully reintegrate  into society. Neither are  there enough                                                               
mentorship programs.  The best bet  is to start over  and address                                                               
the underlying problems that are  causing people to commit crimes                                                               
in the first place.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL said written testimony is welcome.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:34:00 PM                                                                                                                    
LARRY DISEBROW,  representing self, Eagle River,  Alaska, said SB
150 won't  really help. Senate Bill  91 needs to be  repealed and                                                               
replaced  with  a  bill  that addresses  the  crime  problems  in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:35:13 PM                                                                                                                    
BONNIE  LILLEY, representing  self, Anchorage,  Alaska, said  she                                                               
lives alone in  the Muldoon area and  it has a lot  of crime. She                                                               
stated that  notice of  public testimony  needs to  be advertised                                                               
better.  When  she called  the  person,  who answered  the  phone                                                               
didn't know  if public testimony  would be taken. It's  a problem                                                               
to  leave the  public  out of  the process  when  they are  being                                                               
incredibly  affected by  rampant  crime. She  didn't like  Senate                                                               
Bill 91  when she first  saw it and  her assessment was  spot on.                                                               
The  treatment   aspect  isn't  in   effect  and  there   are  no                                                               
repercussions for committing crimes.  She questioned how pretrial                                                               
officers  can  assess  risk when  out-of-state  criminal  history                                                               
isn't  considered.  She approves  of  the  improvements the  bill                                                               
seeks  to  address  but  doesn't  believe  it  will  help  unless                                                               
treatment  in   jail  is  mandatory.   Other  states   that  have                                                               
implemented  similar criminal  justice legislation  have required                                                               
treatment programs. She urged the  committee to focus on stronger                                                               
changes so people can sleep at night.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL said  we're  trying  to make  sure  the public  is                                                               
noticed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:40:11 PM                                                                                                                    
LESLIE DISBROW,  representing self,  Eagle River,  Alaska, stated                                                               
that  SB 150  doesn't go  far  enough to  adequately address  the                                                               
problems with crime in the state.  She doesn't feel safe going to                                                               
the store in Eagle River The  current catch and release system is                                                               
completely  unacceptable. The  only fix  is to  completely repeal                                                               
Senate Bill  91 and work  to solve  the issues facing  the state.                                                               
Cars are  being stolen,  robberies are going  on, and  people are                                                               
shoplifting like  crazy. Nothing can  be done about  this because                                                               
the police and  judges' hands are tied. Scrap Senate  Bill 91 and                                                               
start over.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:42:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CLIFF COOK,  Eagle River Community  Patrol, Eagle  River, Alaska,                                                               
said he started the community  patrol in November 2017 because of                                                               
the increase in  crime in Eagle River by  repeat offenders. These                                                               
folks are arrested and the police  have to release them. A lot of                                                               
people blame Senate Bill 91 and  he agrees. A lot of people blame                                                               
drug  addiction  and he  agrees.  Anchorage  also  has a  lot  of                                                               
homeless and  runaways. What these  people all have in  common is                                                               
they are desperate and unafraid.  He agreed that starting over is                                                               
the right first step to get crime under control.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL said  he would defend some areas of  Senate Bill 91                                                               
but it's  reasonable to poke holes  in it in other  areas. It's a                                                               
combination of  how to prosecute,  the plea bargaining,  the bail                                                               
schedule, and accountability in pretrial.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:45:07 PM                                                                                                                    
BRITTNEY NUXALL,  representing self,  Anchorage, Alaska,  she has                                                               
the  same complaints  as others  about crime,  but she  wanted to                                                               
highlight the suffering  her family has gone through  as a result                                                               
of Senate Bill  91. She described two family members  who have 14                                                               
probation violations  between them. She maintained  that pretrial                                                               
services  does not  hold  them or  others  accountable. She  said                                                               
these people aren't suffering but  their children are. One family                                                               
member was  incarcerated, received treatment, and  the family was                                                               
reunited. She attributed  this largely to pushing  by the family,                                                               
not  the court,  or  pretrial services.  Alaska  says it  doesn't                                                               
leave children behind, but it does.  This is clear when one looks                                                               
at  the  number  of  children  in  foster  care.  She  urged  the                                                               
committee to repeal Senate Bill 91 and start over.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:48:36 PM                                                                                                                    
AMY  DEMBOSKI,  representing  self,  Chugiak,  Alaska,  said  the                                                               
Anchorage Assembly  has taken no  less than five hours  of public                                                               
testimony on  Senate Bill 91,  Senate Bill 54, crime  in general,                                                               
and criminal  justice reform. In  the last  year and a  half, she                                                               
has held two town hall meetings  on crime in her district. Nearly                                                               
200 people testified  and just 10 people  supported the direction                                                               
the legislature  has chosen to  go. The rest  were overwhelmingly                                                               
opposed  to  the  criminal justice  reforms  implemented  by  the                                                               
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
She said  her testimony on SB  150 is very simple.  It is logical                                                               
to  use out-of-state  criminal histories  but the  pre-assessment                                                               
tool is fundamentally flawed. Removing  discretion from judges to                                                               
remove  criminals from  the state  and  keep the  public safe  is                                                               
counter to  the role  judges traditionally  play in  the criminal                                                               
justice  system. She  stated support  for the  amendments Senator                                                               
Wielechowski described, particularly Amendment 1.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. DEMBOSKI said she appreciates  Senator Coghill looking at the                                                               
criminal justice system  in Alaska, but she  believes that Senate                                                               
Bill 91 has  contributed significantly to the  explosion of crime                                                               
in the  state. She shared  that some police officers  have pulled                                                               
her aside  and said they are  not allowed to speak  out about the                                                               
legislation  publicly, but  they  want to  see  it repealed.  She                                                               
noted that today's  hearing was publicly noticed  but nowhere did                                                               
it say that  public testimony would be taken.  She expressed hope                                                               
that  Senator Costello's  bill to  repeal Senate  Bill 91  gets a                                                               
full and fair public hearing with adequate public notice.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:52:43 PM                                                                                                                    
LYNETTE CLARK,  representing self,  Fox, Alaska,  said SB  150 is                                                               
nothing  but a  band  aid on  the  crime wave  in  Alaska when  a                                                               
tourniquet is needed. She believes Senate  Bill 91 is the core of                                                               
the  problem.  Public  testimony  on  that  legislation  foretold                                                               
future problems.  There are a lot  of reasons for the  crime wave                                                               
including  drugs, unemployment,  and debt.  In her  small village                                                               
the   worries  are   about  heroin   addicts,  crack   addiction,                                                               
"methheads," stolen  trucks, and home break-ins.  In this economy                                                               
it's difficult  for people  to replace  the things  they've lost.                                                               
The  solution is  to  repeal Senate  Bill 91  and  then employ  a                                                               
different tactic to protect Alaskans.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL said  that  in  Senate Bill  91  victims got  more                                                               
access  and input.  The penalties  were increased  for both  drug                                                               
dealing and  murder, so  repealing the bill  entirely would  be a                                                               
step backward  in those areas. He  acknowledged that improvements                                                               
could be made in the areas of pretrial and arrests.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL said the CS and the amendments would be brought                                                                   
forward on Monday.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:58:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COGHILL held SB 150 in committee with public testimony                                                                    
open.                                                                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CS to SB 184 (ver. N).pdf SJUD 3/28/2018 1:30:00 PM
SB 184
CS to SB 150 (ver. O).pdf SJUD 3/28/2018 1:30:00 PM
SB 150
Sarah Possenti - State Board of Parole.pdf SJUD 3/28/2018 1:30:00 PM
Confirmation
William Gordon - Board of Governors of Alaska Bar.pdf SJUD 3/28/2018 1:30:00 PM
Confirmation